Creation Options: Humans (Mortal Template) & Ghouls (Built On Said Templates)

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Greetings,

I would like to request, as it is actually a part of the Core Rules and Players Guide, that you allow for the creation of sheets for Human/Mortal (with Mortal Templates: Weak, Average, Gifted, and Deadly on p. 185) and Ghouls (p. 234).

It would be helpful for players who have ghouls as well as for storytellers for development of NPCs. It should be a part of the character creation options.

Thanks, in advance, for your consideration.

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Thanks for the request. This is something I really want added as well. I’ve got a ticket filed for our devs to look into it further!

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Eve - Super Great News! Go Devs Go! Thanks :slight_smile:

Base References:
Core Rules: Mortal Templates p. 185; Ghoul, p. 234
Players Guide: Mortals, p. 144-151; Ghouls, p. 136-144

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Eve/Devs,

Please understand, I write this in my excitement and would appreciate any work towards this goal, but I figured it could not hurt to share my thoughts :rofl:

Obviously, I could see a simple option within Kindred Creator (something simple like Vampire v5 Characters [iPhone App], etc.). It could be as simple as a separate section below clans - Mortal Clan & Ghoul Clan (respectively). In this manner, you could change the Age Adjustments to Mortal & Ghoul Template: Weak | Average | Gifted | Deadly. Moreover, like the Catliff and Thin-Bloods have variations and limits in options (Disiciplines, Merts, Flaws, etc.,) so would Ghouls & Mortals within the simple option of using Kindred Creation Machine.

Please know, this would be fantastic though, if playes want the option to play as mortal or ghoul (like D&D and PF have Level 0 Starting Points), I thought I would share something more like dream options. :stuck_out_tongue: :slight_smile:

Basics & Dreams

Obivously, Smartphone App, mentioned above, has a separate creation processes for kindred and mortal/ghoul, but essentially my thought is that it be earier to just be builiding separate ghoul and mortal creators (if outside Kindred Creator) from modified duplicates of the Kindred Creator. So, I thought I would show some passion and freely offer some thoughts. :slight_smile:

Kindred Characters

  • Demiplane Creator (Exists Now - Great Job Devs!)

Mortals (Chose: PC | NPC)

  • Getting Started
    • Name & Family Name Text Boxes
    • Mortal Template [Replaces Age Adjustments]: Weak | Average | Gifted | Deadly) [PC Locks: Gifted]
  • Clan: Mortal (Only Option)
  • Disciplines & Powers (Options Greyed Out or No Section)
  • Prepator Type (Options Greyed Out or No Section)
  • Merits & Flaws (Mortal Only - Kindred & Ghoul Secttions: Options Greyed Out or No Section)
  • Blackgrounds (Mortal Only - Non-Mortal Removed/Greyed Out)
  • Lore Sheets (None or 1 Dotter Where Might Be Allowable)
  • Concepts & Lore (Largely Same But Generation | SIre | Date Of Death - Locked Out)
  • Progression (Possible But Based On Allowable Mortal Things From Above)
  • Coterie (Mortals Do Have Them)

Ghouls (Chose: PC | NPC)

  • Getting Started
    • Name & Family Name Text Boxes (Ghouls Benefit From Family Textbox)
    • Ghoul Template [Replaces Age Adjustments]: Weak | Average | Gifted | Deadly) [PC Locks: Gifted]
  • Clan: Ghoul (Domitor/Family Clan) (Essentially Kindred Clan Options)
  • Disciplines & Powers (1 Discipline [1 Dot] & 1 Power [1 Dot])
  • Prepator Type: Kindred Vitae (Dormitor) | Kindred Vitae (Alternate Source) [See Flaws]
  • Merits & Flaws (Mortal/Ghoul Allowed | Banned: Grey-Out)
  • Add-On: Domintor (Final Death) [2 Dot Flaw]
  • Blackgrounds (Ghoul/Mortal Allowed | Banned: Grey-Out
  • Lore Sheets (None | 1 Dotter Where Might Be Allowable)
  • Concepts & Lore (Largely Same But Generation | Sire | Date Of Death) [See Below]
  • Progression (Possible But Based On Allowable Mortal Things From Above)
  • Coterie (Mortals Do Have Them)

Additional Notes:

CONCEPT/LORE:

  • Concept Additions (Can Even Keep For Kindred - Just Default Text Might Be None)
  • Date of Birth | Place Of BIrth (2 Textbox: Change Title - Even Kindred Might Want To Know)
  • Name + Family Name (All Might Want To Know - But Ghouls Benefit From Family)
  • Gender & Ethnicity (2 Textbx - Let People Ignore or Write-In)
  • Sire | Domitor | Relationship (3 Textboxes - Fill/Ignored - Even Kindred Might Have Once Ghoul]
  • Appearance & Distinguishing
  • Features Sections (As Is)
  • History (Textbox):
    • Add Red Text Instructutions Noting How To Creates Sub-Sections (Using ----) [See Below]
    • Instruction Should Have These Examples Sections Of History:
      • Ghouls: Mortal Life | Gift of Vitae Event | Early Ghoul Life | Current LIfe
      • Kindred: Mortal Life | Embrace Event | Early Kindred Life | Current LIfe
      • History Note: I always encourage characters to write in these things
  • FINAL NOTE: Most of these concepts are just an addition textbox, but add a lot to flavor and can be ignored by folks who do not want/need to complete. Even Kindred PC would enjoy the options above which they could leave blank if they did not want to use.

SECTION EXAMPE:

… but with the separation of history into independent boxes you encourage new players to explore and develop these parts of their lives. If you do not want to make separate text boxes you might note in Red Text - How To Make Sections as I just said :slight_smile:

CHARACTER CREATION: TRANFORMATION SECTION (BIGGER DREAM):

  • Future Idea - Allows Mortal & Ghouls To Be Moved To Other Creators
  • Clan Optinons (Options Open As Appropriate)
  • Abilities & Skills (Locked - Transfer As Is)
  • Other Sections: Some Things Locked - Others Transfer As Is But Can Be Edited (e.g., Name Change)
  • Dis-Allowed Things - Refund Appropriate XP to Progression (e.g., Ghoul Merits/Flaws - Those Lost)
  • Final Note: Obviously, GM & PC could simply Generate A PDF to Print Then Use It w/Above, But It Would Be A Cool Thing To Offer - Making Demiplane Unique

FINAL THOUGHTS:
Demiplane has created a wonderful method of creating kindred. I know you can do a great job with these whether you use my ideas or not. While the options to create mortals and ghouls should be a basic feature, the additional features such as merits/flaws should be granted with purchases (such as Players Guide) just like you do with base kindred characters.

Whatever devs do, these are just my thoughts which I shared freely - what do I know, I am not a dev :stuck_out_tongue: :slight_smile:

Cheers To All