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I have a druid that took the Order feat so he could have access to the stone order but it doesn’t allow me to choose the stone order. I see other orders like leaf and storm.

Sorry to hear it doesn’t seem to be working right. Can I get a link to the character you’re having this issue on? It will help me see what’s going on so that I can either fix it or get it over to our dev team.

Eve,

Here is a link to my character: Chert Giantbane - Pathfinder 2e Character Sheet

When I choose Order Explorer feat it doesn’t show the Stone Order at all. Not even greyed out or unselectable.

Hey staceylpage! Thanks for the link. It took me a moment to realize but you’re using the remastered version of Order Explorer and the Stone order hasn’t yet been added to the remaster. You can change this by opening the Character Builder, clicking Preferences & Rules, and then toggling the Show Legacy Content option.

From there you’ll want to remove the Order Explorer feat you’ve currently selected and select the Legacy version of it with the little L next to the name.

Thanks Eve!

However, once I removed the Order Explorer and went back in to add the Legacy version, everything was locked, including things from Player Core etc. I can see the library that we have set up for our group but none of it is useable.

Try signing out of demiplane and then back in, if that doesn’t work let me know and I’ll go poke a dev about this.

Looks like our GM forgot to share after some changes on his end.

So it is letting me choose Order Explorer, and then I can choose Stone Order. At level 6 I am taking Advanced Elemental Spell which should automatically give me the Stone Lance focus spell. Stone Lance does not show up in my focus spells and when I went to select it in the list it thinks I do not have the prerequisite ability which to be a member of the Stone Order which comes from Order Explorer.

The second thing I noticed was I have too many skills. I went back and checked to see where they are coming from and the only thing I can tell is that maybe they are coming from my Order Explorer selection. I think it is giving me the free skill from the Stone Order when I choose Order Explorer. But that should not be. I should have one skill from my background, one from my animal order, one free from being a druid and then 2+int bonus for the rest. Total of 8 by my count. But I am getting 9 from Demi.

Thanks for the help so far!

It’s possible that the 9th skill is coming from a weird interaction caused by switching to Legacy midway through. I looked over the character sheet but nothing jumped out at me as the cause. In situations like this I normally recommend recreating the character with Legacy content turned on from the beginning and see if you get the same result.

As far as the issue with not getting Stone Lance goes we’re currently investigating whether or not that’s intended. The argument for you intentionally not getting it is that the Order Explorer feat says you only count as a member of the Order for Feat Requirements and you don’t gain any other benefits of the order you choose. The argument for getting it is that since you meet the prereq for the feat you should get the spell.

We’re currently looking into changing things so that you can manually add focus spells which would be a middle ground between the two instances.

Eve,
For Stone Lance, I am taking the feat Advanced Elemental Spell which gives me the specific spell Stone Lance for the Stone Order I selected with the Order Explorer feat.

I believe the extra skill is coming from the Order Explorer feat as when you select an order normally as a druid you get a skill associated with it. I think this is actually correct.

Being able to add focus spells or free feats would both be nice as we are in the Curse of the Frozen Flame adventure path and you can earn free feats there.

One other issue I noticed was when I went to the character builder and made changes they were not reflected after I saved the character sheet until I left the site and came back. That was very annoying as several times I had to redo changes to the character.